Sunday, March 23, 2008

Zagreb - King Tomislav, Crowned 925 - Disappeared 928 +/- AD

King Tomislav.
The Missing Has His Place

King Tomislav, Zagreb, Croatia

Tomislav stands on his mount here in the capital of Croatia, Zagreb.  This is at the entrance of the magnificent old train station, near the grandest hotel in Zagreb.

Tomislav was crowned in 925 AD, see ://,  by the Holy Catholic Church in Rome.  This period precedes the later division in about 1000 (?) between the Latin-Roman Catholic Church and what we call the Eastern Orthodox, or Orthodox Christian, Church.

The later ecclesiastical division occurred when the Roman branch pulled away. At this earlier time, there was still only one Holy Catholic Church, as I recall from reading. But there is a mystery:  Tomislav "disappeared" and then was "declared dead" in 928 AD.

 VM, who provided us with the correct identification, refers us to another site: where a Mr. Mojmir Damjanovic of Australia is researching where King Tomislav is buried, and even where the actual Crown might be  - looking for "the father of independent Croatia."

The site notes that little is recorded in history texts about the kingdom 923-1102 AD.

There had been discord ongoing at the time about whether the Croatian Catholic or the Latin Catholic Church should control in the area. The Croatian Kingdom, says the site, was "mightier than England at the time, mightiest in that part of Europe."

So:  Was the death a "planned strategy" to "quash its strength and its power, to deny the Croatian nation self-determination and its name; its independence." To be continued. Connecting other things here as well.

Roots of a country's memories go deep - King Tomislav from the 10th Century is so remembered. Whenever important matters are said to be unknown, does that mean 

1) that history is shaped by the victor's spin, and the representation may be concealment, or fabrication, to suit the victor, and

2) religions do not expand by truth and voluntary conversion primarily, but by politics and strategic killings through the centuries; and

3) countries that bloomed early, and are not empires any more, like Croatia, or those that were on the verge of greatness and expansion at in the 10th Century, are no less worthy in history because their leaders were overcome by other forces, than those who scrabbled themselves on top.

See King Tomislav in Bosnia - Bosnia or great parts of it once was part of the larger Croatian sphere of influence at that time, 900-1100. We have to check the dates, but see Bosnia Road Ways, Capilyn, Statue. The inscription, based on what we have been told by one VM (see the Zagreb post) shows that King Tomislav was crowned at Capilyn.  Spellings vary depending on the language being used.

King Tomislav mysteriously disappeared some three years after his coronation, in the context of a dispute with the Roman Catholic or Latin Catholic branch of Christendom, where the Croatian branch had wanted more autonomy.

  • Ask the Vatican what happened to Tomislav? All it takes is access to the Vatican's library to get at the truth, we bet - we bet they have all that is needed in there. Ask for a library card.  Any more bets?

Connections, connections. Conflict with Rome and Big Consequences.  Look up the Nin post here and Bishop Gregory of Nin, and the guides tell us that he had wanted to do the Mass in Croatian.  But Rome stopped him. Post dated January 26, 2007.